Ernie Willis Sentenced~Chuck Phelps Lies Again.

Ernie on his way to prison

On September 6, 2011, Ernie Willis was sentenced to 15 to 30 years in prison for of three counts of forcible rape and one count of felonious sexual assault of Tina Anderson.  Tina Dooley Anderson was at the time of these rapes, … Continue reading 

“Tina’s Marine” Letter to ‘Ken Smith’

Jesus Knows by Nancy Bicknell

Ken,

I’ve been trying to understand why you have taken this so personal. You’ve latched your teeth into Tina and I wish I knew why. You commented on the I Support Tina Anderson blog and yes, I read your comments even though we did not publish them. You said some hurtful things but I won’t take that personal. If you believe that Tina is lying, that is your choice. You may post that wherever someone will let you. I fought for our country so that you might have that freedom. I have contemplated for days if I should or would respond to you. Well, I decided that I would address a few things.

First, please read http://www.scribd.com/doc/44495191/Tina-Anderson-s-Statement-to-the-Concord-Police. This is a copy of what Tina wrote to the police when they called us on my birthday about a year and a half ago and asked her to give a statement of what happened. We stand by what she wrote and what she swore under oath that her statement to the police was truthful.

Second, there were a couple things that the newspapers got wrong. Where it came from, I don’t know but someone said that Ernie was a deacon. You’ll notice in the police report that Tina never called him a deacon and never said that in the couple of interviews that she gave. That issue was quickly addressed and corrected in future articles.

Third, you say Tina lied when she agreed with Elizabeth Vargas on 20/20 that she “lost” her job. You are correct that Tina was not fired from being a teacher. We never said that she had been fired. I understand how you and others could understand it that way. There was no willful intent to deceive. The word lost was used in the context of “no longer in the possession, care, or control of someone or something” (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/lost) but it was not “lost” in the sense that it was taken away.

On purpose, we did not go into the details of why Tina put in her resignation. There were a lot of things that happened that made us realize that we could not continue at this church and school. This is the church that I grew up in since I was five years old. This is the place where I attended the Christian academy from kindergarten to 12th grade. This is the college that I achieved one of my bachelor’s degrees and almost completed my master’s degree (I’d have to complete three more classes). This is where I devoted over 20 years of my life. We chose to walk away. Although it’s been brought out by others, I don’t bring up the names of these organizations because I don’t want to drag them through the mud but it’s part of our life and it’s kind of hard to hide where you’ve spent about half of your life. I have deep feelings for that place. When I say I’ve “lost” friends, it means that us and them have chosen to part ways. It means that people I’ve known all my life and all the people that Tina got to know while she was there, don’t fellowship with us. Will some of those friendships be renewed? I don’t know, maybe. I still hold out hope. There are a couple families that we do see occasionally but six people out of hundreds is not very many.

Fourth, you’re concerned about The Tina Anderson Foundation and where does the money go and how much does Tina and I receive. There might be other concerns but I’ll address the one I know about. Tina and I do not receive any money from the foundation. Now, in the interest of full disclosure, during Christmas time, we were given gas money and our hotel room paid so that we could take a week’s vacation to spend time with friends out of state. The foundation also gave us some Christmas gifts that my kids still enjoy playing with. The purpose of the foundation is stated on the website. If people want to donate to help others, that is great! If people are not comfortable with donating to this foundation, don’t. This was set up to try and make a difference in people’s lives and to give a chance for others to help. I trust and support the people and their families who run the foundation. In fact, I love them like family. All of them have meant so much to me, my wife and my kids.

Finally, Ken. I know this will not answer all your questions and you may dismiss what I have to say. That is fine. I pray that God’s peace come upon you and that you have joy in your life. God has greatly blessed me and I pray that God will also bless you also.

Sincerely,

Tim Anderson

(As posted on I support Tina Anderson blog http://isupporttinaanderson.blogspot.com/2011/06/letter-to-ken-smith.html?spref=fb)

Email from a Coward

Never ceases to amaze Chuckles how people who have never met, spoken to, or even corresponded with Tina Anderson come to conclusions such as she is some weak minded person who was influenced to go through a grueling testimony against her rapist because she is bitter.  Or better yet, were under some spell of other bitter people to go through the investigation, and be willing to testify against her rapist in court which caused the loss of her job teaching music at International Baptist College in Arizona, her long time friends, was forced out of her church, and more, because she told the truth when contacted by Concord Police about what happened to her fourteen years before.

Received the following email this morning from someone who claims to be a ‘man of God’ but is too yellow to sign his name.

Chuckles Travels or CP Traveler,

My wife stumbled across Chuckles Travels a few days ago. I was on the road, preaching and leading people to Jesus, while you sit behind a keyboard blaming good men like Chuck Phelps and others for the bitterness in your own hearts. No, doubt Dr. Phelps made mistakes. Dr. Phelps has been very humble, as he cried in my presence last fall, pouring out his hurt for both the Willis family and for Mrs. Anderson. Tina is not a 15 year old girl. Her memories have no doubt been influenced by bitter, angry people like Jocelyn Zichterman and perhaps you, whoever you are.

God’s word warns about bitterness defiling others.

See to it that no one fails to obtain the grace of God; that no “root of bitterness” springs up and causes trouble, and by it many become defiled; Hebrews 12:15

Tina was happy, serving the Lord, teaching at a good, solid fundamental Baptist college, until bitter people poisoned her and her husband with their own bitterness. 

First of all these people who have full blown bitterness are in serious trouble. This is not my opinion, it is God’s. Bitterness is a root! A root is a source. Where does the roots dwell? Under the surface of the soil. Can everybody see it’s root system? No, because it’s hidden under the soil or surface. The same is true with bitterness in a person’s soul. It is a hidden element that lies under the surface, and out of it springs up anger and other negative emotions against others and against the circumstances around us. People who have a root of bitterness find it easy to get upset over things that other’s are doing around them. It’s like a brewing fountain that lies beneath the surface, waiting to fuel something that is on the surface.

Countless women who are raped develop awful bitter spirits that affect and infect people around them. No one doubts that these women were hurt. It’s not because they were raped, but because they allowed the trauma to get to them, they nurse the bitterness for years. Many women are in bondage today because they became bitter under the surface about what was done to them years ago, and then refuse to forgive. Jocelyn Z is one of those women. The Devil loves bitterness and unforgiveness, and it’s a wide open door for them to move right in on a person and develop many spiritual, mental and even physical problems. 

Bitterness, anger and lack of forgiveness doesn’t have to take over a woman’s life, only because she was raped years ago. I know women who have been raped, and they are kind and gentle and loving people. 

I read the entry, “It Happens to Boys too.” My heart hurts for Mrs. Bicknell and her two sons. It is unfortunate she and it appears they have turned to Worldly counsel instead of leaning on their Savior. Jim Berg wisely teaches, it seemed that boys who are molested by older men and forgave the molester and forgot about it right away, walked away without picking up unclean homosexual abominations, and tend to not turn to alcohol and drugs to lesson the pain. Those who allowed the trauma to make them bitter instead of better and instead walked away from Godly counsel were very likely to end up with homosexual relationships and the bondages of depression, drugs, alcohol and even the ultimate rebellion against The Creator, suicide. How the Devil begins to gain access into a person’s life through rape and abuse is the root of bitterness which eventually becomes a giant tree. Root out all bitterness when it is small, and the person will go on to serve their Savior, with joy and happiness no matter what terrible situations they faced in their past.

We will be praying for the Anderson family that they realize the bitter people are coming between them and the LORD. Will pray for Jocelyn Zichterman and the others like her who have let the root become a giant oak repent, and realize the damage they are all doing.

In Jesus Name,

More Chuck Phelps Lies

Chuck Phelps After Trial Statement

 

Chuck Phelps has posted the above statement of his website.  More self-serving outright lies.  According to his website, interview with 20/20, and numerous other individuals, Phelps he repeatedly said Tina was in a covert dating relationship with a married man.” According to sworn testimony the Concord Police have no record of him making any report to them.  According to his own testimony he did not return the calls made to him by the police.   According to Phelps own sworn, under oath testimony, Phelps told the police Tina did not want to make a police report, and did not make her whereabouts known to the police.  Phelps conveniently left out of this statement that Tina was sent out of the Concord Police Jurisdiction to Colorado.  According to Tina, she was told not to tell the hospital staff when she gave birth who about the father of her baby.  Wonder if the “medical professional”  Phelps so readily through under the bus in his statement had all that information as well.  As a matter of fact, the Nurse Practitioner testified she did not know that Tina had been raped, let alone  by a 39 year old man.

Facts left out, that under oath, Phelps told the court that Willis admitted to him that Willis was the aggressor.

Fact left out,  Phelps KNEW that Willis payed for the airfare for Tina to be sent to Colorado.

There is much more, just read this blog.

Fact, Phelps may well think this is all over,  his arrogance is astounding.  If I were him, I wouldn’t be acting like the hero here and blaming the police.  The Feds may be on his doorstep anytime.

Hope they find this, and throw the book at him.

Trail of Tears and Blood

Matthew Jarrell was pastor of Miller Road Baptist Church which then merged with Open Door Baptist, was once home to Dave Hyles, son of Jack Hyles of Faith Baptist Church, Hammond, IN.  At some point Matthew Jarrell was simultaneously the pastor of both churches.

Current pastor Jack Shaap is the brother-in-law of Dave Hyles.

Here are a couple of the major low-lights of the story, involving men directly involved with First Baptist Church in Hammond:

A.V. Ballenger, a deacon and bus route driver at Hyles’ First Baptist Church Hammond, was convicted in March of 1993 (and sentenced in July of 1993 to five years in jail) of molesting a seven year old girl. (This crime occurred in a Sunday School room of the church! Incredibly, after conviction, but prior to sentencing, Ballenger was allowed to resume his FBCH bus route!) The highlight of the sentencing hearing was the testimony of three young women. Each was molested by Ballenger when she was a child, and in each case, before age seven. Jack Hyles, who testified on Ballenger’s behalf, defiantly declared the outcome of the trial null and void, claiming that the courts had no jurisdiction in this matter. Hyles told the girl’s parents, “Deacon Ballenger just likes little girls.” 

David Hyles, Jack Hyles’ son, had affairs with at least 19 different women at Miller Road Baptist Church in Garland, Texas, during the time he pastored there. (He was dismissed when a janitor found photos of Hyles having sex with a deacon’s daughter.) Back in the Chicago area (Bolingbrook, IL), and after David’s divorce from his wife, David was cohabitating with a woman by the name of Brenda Stevens. Brenda posed for pornographic pictures in Adam and Chicago Swingers magazines (in an advertisement for group sex) during the time she and David were living together. After David married Brenda, Brenda’s 17-month-old son by a previous marriage was found battered and dead at the Hyles’ home. The police still consider the case a murder and continue to view David and Brenda as prime suspects. At the coroner’s inquest in 1985, Brenda was a no-show, while David Hyles pleaded the Fifth Amendment. [In June of 2003, it was reported that David Hyles had been kicked out of another church (Pinellas Park Baptist in the Florida Keys), this time over a 9-woman sex scandal. Nevertheless, David Hyles still kept a a full itinerary of speaking to churches on Sunday School growth for quite a while thereafter.] 

I post these examples to point out the head-in-the-sand attitude that many Christians take to avoid confronting the truth.  I point that out to show, this is not a new phenomena. Long before Tina Anderson, there was the horrific case of Esther Coombs that was highlighted on ABC News Primetime.

There are 1000′s of similar cases out there.  For too long, When confronted with the evidence that they turn around and it insist the evidence doesn’t exist.  They complain when the media does a story on abuse, it is painting fundamentalism with “too broad a brush.” For all their insistence and whining, fundamentalist preachers chose to close their eyes tight, stick their fingers in their ears and scream, “I’m not listening! I’m not listening!” And then go on to prepare their Sunday morning sermon series on the pedophilia scandal plaguing the Catholic Church and how this proves that Catholicism is from the pit of hell.  The Fundamental Baptist Fellowship International (*note: Chuck Phelps is the vice-chairmen) wrote the following resolution against sex abuse by the Catholic church in 2002.

02.9 CONCERNING PERVERSION IN THE CATHOLIC PRIESTHOOD

While this blog, or no one wants to down play the sexual abuse that take place in any church, it should be noted that the FBFI has NEVER issued any resolution condemning abuse, physical or sexual abuse, whatsoever, from within Independent Baptist Fundamentalism. It is past time, fundamentalist leaders, pastors and their faithful members demand accountability.  It is time to stop blaming the child victim, in any way whatsoever, for the crime committed against them. It is past time, they stop “investigating,” as Chuck Phelps did, when sexual assault of a child or teen is revealed, and turn it over to the authorities whose experience and training with investigating sex crimes. It is past time, for fundamentalist leaders and pastors to practise what they preach and separate from people like Chuck Phelps who, made a conscious choice, to allow a degenerate who raped a teen girl to remain free, while sending the teen girl into exile.  No matter, what Chuck Phelps “thought,” he was wrong.  He was Tina’s shepherd.  He has told people that he was trying to save the Willis marriage.  Phelps testified on the stand that, Tina had less to lose than Willis.  Rape has been called “soul murder” for a reason. Our criminal justice system is not perfect, but it is responsible for investigate and prosecute these crimes. According to the scriptures, that is one thing for which government is ordained of God.

Editorial From Concord [NH] Monitor

By Monitor staff

Applaud Anderson for speaking out
June 1, 2011

Tina Anderson’s horrifying treatment by Concord’s Trinity Baptist Church made her story the subject of national attention. Anderson was 15 in 1997 when she was raped and impregnated by Ernest Willis, then a church member more than twice her age. In a scene that sounds like it occurred in a distant century, Anderson was called before the congregation by its then-pastor, Chuck Phelps, and told to apologize for being pregnant. She was sent by Phelps and her mother to live with a family Phelps knew in Colorado until the baby was born and could be put up for adoption.

The specifics of Anderson’s case were extraordinary in one other way too: Fourteen years later, she summoned the courage to return to Concord and confront Willis, not to mention Phelps and her mother. In doing so, she set an example for women everywhere who have been doubly victimized – first by their attackers and then again by their fear of seeking justice.

Anderson put a name and a face to a crime that usually goes unreported because women fear the attacks on their character and credibility that inevitably follow accusations of rape.

Confronted years later, Willis admitted to statutory rape and claimed the sex was consensual. But last week, a Merrimack County Superior Court jury also found him guilty of forcibly raping Anderson on two occasions. He is now awaiting sentencing. For Anderson, the trauma of testifying in open court – not just before a judge and jury but also for an audience that stretched far beyond Concord – was mitigated by the courtroom victory.

A distressing number of American woman are the victims of rape or sexual assault. One national study puts the figure at one in seven; a 2007 New Hampshire surveys found the number closer to one in four. Despite the national focus on sexual and domestic violence and the increasing empowerment of women, most rapes still go unreported. The National Institute of Justice estimates that just 31 percent are brought to the attention of authorities; a 2011 study published by the Journal of Interpersonal Violence puts the figure at 15.8 percent.

Rape is typically committed by someone known to the victim, and it is a crime that rarely has witnesses. It is a hard crime to prove. Earlier this year, a committee of the Governor’s Commission on Domestic and Sexual Violence published a report that argues that the criminal justice system fails to prosecute or win convictions in the vast majority of rape cases. It studied 344 female sexual assault cases in New Hampshire in 2006 and found that only 13 – or 3 percent – of the 344 offenders named either pleaded guilty or were convicted.

Indeed, Anderson’s case might have been forgotten altogether had a former Trinity member not discussed Anderson’s treatment by the church on a Facebook page founded by an activist to highlight what she believes are abuses by fundamentalist Baptist churches.

That activist, Jocelyn Zichterman, claims that when she was abused by a family member as a youth, her Baptist church pressured her into remaining silent. She now considers such fundamentalist churches to be cults and has made it her cause to support victims like Anderson. Whatever you make of Zichterman’s beliefs, the trial dramatized the importance for rape victims of having an experienced, caring advocate at one’s side while going through a grueling, emotional trial.

If rapists are going to be convicted, more victims will need the courage to do what Anderson did: confront their attackers and endure difficult questioning in the name of justice. In this case, at least, that bravery paid off.

http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/260299/applaud-anderson-for-speaking-out?CSAuthResp=%3Asession%3ACSUserId|CSGroupId%3Aapproved%3A0EC42FCA21B0F0920CF0C5D9AB54D921&CSUserId=14461&CSGroupId=1

Another Skeleton falling out of the Closet of Trinity Baptist Church, NH?

According to the Concord, New Hampshire newspaper, Union Leader, another woman who currently resides in California came forward the week of Ernie Willis’ rape trial alleging she too was sexually assaulted while attending Trinity Baptist Church, Concord, NH.   According to the report, the woman states she was sexually assaulted by a Trinity Baptist Church member while she was a minor around the same time Tina Anderson was raped by Ernie Willis.

Last week, Ernie Willis was found guilty of three counts of forcible rape and two counts of felonious sexual assault. 

Pastor Chuck Phelps would have been the pastor of Trinity Baptist when this alleged assault occurred aswell.  More information will likely be forthcoming.

Under the Wheels of the Chuck Phelps Bus

Yesterday afternoon, David Gibbs III, who represents both Chuck Phelps and Christine Leaf, lost last minute legal wrangling citing “pastoral privilege.”  According to reports,  David Gibbs III argued that should not be included since Chuck Phelps’ “copious notes” had been handed over to the Concord Police Department without his knowledge.  Judge Larry Smukler ruled against the argument of pastoral privilege by David Gibbs III.

Merrimack County Superior Court Judge Larry Smukler talks with Assistant County Attorney Wayne Coull, left, and Public Defenders, Brooksley and Donna Brown, during a hearing for Ernest Willis.

It appeared that Chuck Phelps may have forgotten he was not preaching to his flock, but instead testifying in a court of law.  When asked a question, Phelps did not just answer the question, he talked and he talked and he talked.

Of course, making sure to only make eye contact with the jury.

Pastor Phelps says people in his church are taught that pre marital sex is wrong but they are not taught to look down on those who sin. He is describing the guidelines at the school regarding dress codes and behavior.

Chuck, you are such a joker.   Really?  This is like saying a Catholic doesn’t need to go to confession.

Chuck Phelps “copious notes” that were turned over to the Concord Police without his knowlege contained some interesting things.

In Chuck Phelps interview with 20/20 Phelps said he did not know that Ernie Willis was the father of Tina’s baby.  Phelps said that Tina accused a man of a crime but did not know that a crime had been committed.

According to Phelps testimony, his “copious notes” revealed,

Pastor Phelps just checked his notes from October 8, 1997 and says that Ernie told him he had two encounters with Tina about a month apart and that in a meeting later that same day with his wife present he told the Pastor that he was the ‘aggressor’. He [Phelps] says it was then revealed that Tina was with child.

uh OH!

Chuck Phelps pulled one of the oldest trick in the Independent Baptist Fundamentalist, preacher play book.  He turned on the waterworks.  Phelps cried as he recounted that he was concerned Ernie Willis may have been suicidal, after Willis had admitted that he was the ‘aggressor’ on Tina Anderson.  Absent from Phelps testimony was any crying, and concern over the fact that a teenage sexual assault victim may be suicidal.  Wonder why, Chuck didn’t call the Concord Police, or escort Willis to the Concord Police Department where Willis would have been “safe” on suicide watch in the county jail?

Phelps also testified that he that he knew the family in Colorado that homeschooled their three boys. Phelps testified that this family would be perfect to keep Tina during her pregnancy.

Is it a wise decision to send this vulnerable teen girl halfway across a continent, to a place where she would not know anyone, to live in a home with a family of only boys?

Wait a minute. He knew the family….perfect…keep Tina?

Thought Phelps had no say in sending Tina to Colorado. Didn’t Mrs. Leaf testify to that earlier?

uh OH!

Later in the testimony, Phelps told the prosecutor that he wanted to be on the side of the prosecution for over a year.

Really?  Phelps you are such the joker!  Why didn’t you come forward, cooperating with the investigation, not attacking the victim on your website, etc?

Phelps complained he was thrown under the bus by the media.

Chuck, the floorboards under the drivers seat of the bus you were driving were rotted through.  Chuck you just fell under the wheels of the bus you were driving.  Chuck Phelps took Ernie Willis and Christine Leaf under the bus tires along with him.  Furthermore, Phelps proved that Tina was telling the truth.

Meanwhile, the boys club over on Sharper Iron are still arguing over whether Tina should have been Church disciplined or not.  Even fight over what the word “aggressor” means.

Oh how Chuckles longs for the sound of silence by the Sharper Iron folks.

Trial Transcript Day 2 by Amy Covino

Good Morning. There has been a delay in the start of the trial due to the probation hearing on a different case in this same courtroom.
by Amy Coveno
Lots of negotiating for seats here in Courtroom 1 at Superior Court. More media has arrived today.
by Amy Coveno 
At one point Attorney David Gibbs III who we are told is here on behalf of the Fundamental Baptist Church was seated next to where the victim Tina Anderson was sitting. Prosecutor Wayne Coull worked to rearrange the seating and move Gibbs further down the bench from Anderson.
by Amy Coveno
Chuckles here:  Doesn’t it appear strange to anyone but me that this wasn’t “accidental?” Does it appear to anyone by me, that it was a strategy of some sort? David Gibbs III is representing both Chuck Phelps and Tina’s mother, Christine Leaf. How is it that an an experienced attorney would not know that he could not sit next to the victim at her rapists trial when one of his clients has been labeled a ‘hostile witness’ by the prosecution?
Christine Leaf is on the witness stand. We are waiting for the arrival of the jury and Judge SMurkle.
by Amy Coveno 
The jury has just arrived and so has the judge. Prosecutor Wayne Coull is continuing his direct examination of Christine Leaf who is Tina’s mother. Tina testified that the two do not have a relationship at this point.
by Amy Coveno 
“Who is Barbara Kingsbury?” Coull asks. “My sister-in-law.” Christine Leaf answers.
by Amy Coveno
“Do you deny that people were trying to reach out to Tina when she was sent to Colorado?” Christine Leaf: no. People were trying to put their arms around her.
by Amy Coveno 
Now Coull is asking about Pastor Phelps role in the decisions made after Tina disclosed that she was pregnant and the father was Ernie Willis.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Leaf is now answering questions about the apology from Ernie Willis to Tina- “He apologized for having sex with my daughter,” Said Leaf. This happened at the Phelps home.
by Amy Coveno 
Leaf is testifying that she has no recollection of time because it was 14 years ago and a ‘difficult’ time. The prosecutor is asking yes/no questions to Leaf about her decision to send Tina away during her pregnancy.
by Amy Coveno 
Leaf admits in court that she told Concord Police that Tina Anderson did NOT want to talk with them.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina’s brother Tom Dooley is in court today. He just left the courtroom, seemingly, upset. His mother is testifying about how “Tina was mean to her when she was pregnant and called her a ‘ditz’.
by Amy Coveno 
State: You made no effort to follow up with police did you? Christine Leaf: Why should I? They have the information.
by Amy Coveno 
The prosecutor is now presenting a letter that is posted on Dr. Chuck Phelps website. Christine identifies it as the letter. She says it was sent for the 20/20 program about this case.
by Amy Coveno 
State: in that letter you say that Tina is out for money. Leaf: yes. State: But Tina never asked for money. Leaf: That’s not true. She needed money for the down payment of a house and we sent her some money from a worker’s comp settlement. She paid back half.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Leaf: This whole trial is supposed to be about Ernie Willis, not me. She isn’t interested in getting even with him.
by Amy Coveno
Tina Anderson is quietly weeping during her mother’s testimony.
by Amy Coveno 
The state has handed this witness over to the defense who is now conducting cross examination. Donna Brown is asking Mrs. Leaf about a 1997 meeting where Tina told her she was pregnant. Tina said it was consensual, correct? Christine: She never said that to me but she never said it was rape.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Leaf: Tina did not want me to report this to the police. She yelled at me. Donna Brown: If she had said she was forcibly raped you would have gone to the police. Leaf: yes.
by Amy Coveno 
Brown: You didn’t push it with police was because Tina never said it was forcible rape. Leaf: Correct.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Leaf says she has a bachelor’s degree in criminal justice as well as an MBA so when her daughter claimed that Daniel Leaf ‘touched her sexually’ Christine said she knew she had to report her claim.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps was involved with the incident with Mr. Willis because he was called by someone else. Pastor Phelps did not run my daily life, says Christine Leaf.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps had no authority to tell Tina to go to the prison to forgive Daniel Leaf because DCYF was in my life, says Christine Leaf.
by Amy Coveno 
Attorneys are now having a sidebar discussion with the judge.
by Amy Coveno 
Ernest Willis is seated at the defense table, his face does not reveal any emotion.
by Amy Coveno 
The jury of eight men and six women appears rested and attentive.
by Amy Coveno 
Donna Brown is asking Christine Leaf to explain her statement that she believes her daughter is ‘out for money’. From either the church and/or Pastor Phelps.
by Amy Coveno 
The state now has the witness on re-direct. No matter what, a crime occurred, right? Yes, sir, answers Christine Leaf. Leaf says police had reports by two people. State: did you think it was in your daugther’s best interest to NOT speak with police. Leaf: I didn’t ask them to NOT speak with her.
by Amy Coveno 
Leaf: I can’t force my daughter to do anything. Prosecutor Coull: Except force her to move to Colorado to live with strangers and be away from her family and friends. Leaf: It was the right thing to do.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Leaf has been excused. Now Barbara Kingsbury is now on the stand. She is married to Jerry Kingsbury, they live in Boscawen. She says she was born in NH. Barbara says she has two children, 25 and 33 years old. She says Tina Anderson is her niece.
by Amy Coveno 
Barbara is telling the court that Tom and Tina came to live with her after Christine Leaf realized there were marks on the kids and she didn’t want Arizona authorities to take the kids so she wanted to get them out of the same house with her husband, Daniel Leaf.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina Anderson is seated in the front row and is nodding at this testimony at times as if she agrees.
by Amy Coveno
Cross examination underway now of Barbara Kingsbury. Tom Dooley has taken his seat in the courtroom again.
by Amy Coveno 
The cross by defense attorney Brooksley Belanger was brief. She questioned the closeness of the relationship between Christine Leaf and Barbara Kingsbury. Kingsbury has been excused. We are now waiting on the next witness.
by Amy Coveno 
Matt Barnhart is now on the stand. He is a business owner, he delivers Pepperidge Farm Bread.
by Amy Coveno 
His wife is Chrisine Barnhart. They have four children. He formerly worked for Fidelity Investments. He is a former member of the Trinity Baptist Church.
by Amy Coveno 
Matt Barnhart is recalling the discipline service at Trinity Baptist Church where Ernie Willis admitted to being unfaithful to his wife and Tina Anderson admitted to being pregnant and apologized for allowing a ‘compromising situation.’
by Amy Coveno 
Matt Barnhart is excused. We are now waiting for the next witness to be called. The judge has called counsel to the bench.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Barnhart, Matt’s wife is now being sworn in. They have been married nearly 19 years. She says she was a member of the Trinity Baptist Church in 1994 they joined. She helped with the nursery and the Kiawana program that teaches the kids bible verses. She taught the four year olds.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine is recalling meeting Tina Dooley(now Anderson) She describes her as a social butterfly and this makes Tina smile a little court.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine recalls Tina ‘quiet’ in 1998. She was present for the admission from Tina at the end of a church service. They called it “church discipline”.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine says Ernie Willis and Tina Anderson were brought forward to the front of the church. She says pastor brought Willis first- he was disciplined for a marital affair. She believes just Pastor Phelps spoke. Then Tina was brought forward, she was disciplined because she was pregnant. She was spoken for says Christine, Chuck Phelps did the talking.
by Amy Coveno
 
Christine says she was mortified. She says they were presented as two separate events.
by Amy Coveno 
No cross examination of Christine, she is excused. The fifth witness of the day is Dawn Fisher. She lives in Concord NH, of and on for ten years. She is 30 years old with two children. Her husband works for State of NH in weights and measures. This witness smiles easily.
by Amy Coveno 
Dawn Fisher says she went to Trinity Christian School with Tina Dooley ( Now Anderson). She says there were 12 students in her graduating class.
by Amy Coveno 
Dawn says the church and the school were a big part of her life growing up and that she was taught that pre marital sex was absolutely forbidden.
by Amy Coveno 
She says it was something that was understood, that it wasn’t ‘pounded over our heads’. Dawn Fisher is recalling knowing Ernest Willis. She is now recalling being asked to leave the church at the end of a Sunday evening service.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Barnhart has been excused, no cross examination. We are now waiting on the next witness.
by Amy Coveno 
The sixth witness of the day is Frances Earle. She has a grown son and two grandchildren. She is retired. She has apartment rentals that they own in the city. She does accounting and office work for the rentals.by Amy Coveno

Frances is recalling knowing Tina Dooley(Anderson) from Trinity Baptist Church. Frances was the church clerk for 14 years.
by Amy Coveno
Frances left the church ten years ago.
by Amy Coveno
Frances says she met Tina when she was 7 or 8 years old.
by Amy Coveno 
Frances is being asked to recount the discipline session at the church involving Tina and Ernie Willis. Frances says Ernie’s wife got up and left and Pastor Phelps got up in front of the church and explains to the congregation that Ernie Willis has been unfaithful to his wife. I was stunned says Frances and she asked her husband why is that our business…that should be worked out between them and not the congregation.
by Amy Coveno 
“Pastor Phelps said it was very unusual to have two types of discipline on one night and then Tina got up and they made her read a letter aloud.” Frances Earle testifies. Frances says never did Pastor Phelps say the two were connected. Frances says Tina looked scared to death.
by Amy Coveno 
We are back inside Courtroom 1 here at Superior Court in Concord. We’re told that Pastor Phelps will testify next. The gallery is very full. We’ve been advised there could be a strong reaction from many in the gallery during Pastor Phelps’ testimony.
by Amy Coveno
Counsel just left the courtroom. We’re not sure what the delay is about.
by Amy Coveno 
We are still waiting for the trial to reconvene.
by Amy Coveno
Defense Counsel has just returned to the courtroom, Ernie Willis is taking his place at the defense table. Prosecutor Wayne Coull is coaching the gallery telling them this will probably be an emotional moment when Pastor Phelps takes the stand. Many have not seen him for years. The prosecutor warns the gallery to refrain from any emotional outburst as that could prompt a mistrial.
by Amy Coveno
Pastor Chuck Phelps is taking the stand now. But the Jury is not here yet. The prosecutor has some ‘housekeeping’ questions to address with Phelps ahead of the jury’s arrival. He was Senior Pastor in 1997 of Trinity Baptist Church in Concord.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps is defining “congregational governance” to the court saying he had not control over the finances and other fundamental elements of the church. He says there were 600-700 parishioners in 1997.
by Amy Coveno
Pastor Phelps is recalling a distress call that had him and his wife respond to the Leaf home for a meeting with Tina Anderson, her mother and other. He learns that Tina is with child from Ernie Willis. Tina was 16 at the time of disclosure. He realizes she may have been 15 at the time of conception.
by Amy Coveno
The next day Pastor Phelps says he reached out to Ernie Willis.
by Amy Coveno
Phelps is recounting confronting Ernie Willis with the information. He says Ernie told him what happened. Phelps was conducting a bit of an investigation about the behavior that some of his parishioners were engaging in.
by Amy Coveno 
Phelps is recalling additional conversations with Tina, his wife and her mother were present as well as additional meetings with Ernest Willis.
by Amy Coveno 
Ernie confessed to his wife abut sexual activity outside of marriage with Pastor Phelps and his wife present.
by Amy Coveno 
Ernie Willis and his wife are since divorced according to those close to this case in the courtroom.
by Amy Coveno 
Phelps: Ernie told the congregation that he violated his marital vows.
by Amy Coveno 
The Dr. Chuck Phelps.com website is now being discussed particularly with reference to this case. Phelps says he is trying to protect himself and his family from death threats they have received. He referencing 20/20 program and the Concord Monitor’s article that ‘blamed’ him when the story broke in 2010.
by Amy Coveno
Phelps says he uses his website to combat untruths that are coming out about his involvement in the Tina Anderson sex assault and subsequent pregnancy.
by Amy Coveno 
No more questions from the State regarding disclosure. Now the defense is conducting ‘voir dire’ again this is all prior to the jury being brought in. It appears Pastor Phelps web page is at the center of this q and a prior to jury involvement.
by Amy Coveno 
We’ve learned by talking with prosecutors that at issue are notes that Pastor Phelps made during counseling sessions with Ernie Willis that were turned over the Concord Police without Pastor Phelps knowledge. Phelps’ attorney are arguing a violation of Pastoral Privilege and trying to make the notes inadmissible. The judge is now deliberating his decision and we are in recess.
by Amy Coveno 
The judge says he believes there is no privilege. The judge will provide a written order that causes him him to conclude that the rule of privilege does not apply. The judge is addressing Pastor Phelps about being asked difficult questions that he may feel he cannot answer them without violating pastoral privilege. The judge says the court is ordering the Pastor to answer the questions rather them the Pastor offering the information.
by Amy Coveno 
The jury has returned to their places. And Pastor Charles Phelps is being sworn in . He lives in Indianapolis Indiana with his family for the past two years. He was pastor of the Trinity Baptist Church here in Concord from 1989-2007.
by Amy Coveno
Pastor Phelps is addressing the jury directly. He is making eye contact and his body is angled toward the jury. He appears comfortable and confident.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps says people in his church are taught that pre marital sex is wrong but they are not taught to look down on those who sin. He is describing the guidelines at the school regarding dress codes and behavior.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina Anderson is shaking her head and crying as Pastor Phelps denies on the stand that Tina ever told him about being physically and sexually abused by Dan Leaf.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps says in 30 years of ministry he’s never forgotten a child who’s come to him to confide that he or she is being sexually or physically abused.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina Anderson is crying and struggling to maintain her composure. Her brother Tom is offering comfort.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps: I never told Tina to go to prison to see her step-father. Forgive and forget is so contrary to my training and my philosophy, I teach confront.
by Amy Coveno 
The judge has just called counsel to the bench.
by Amy Coveno 
We are taking a brief recess. The jury is leaving the courtroom.
by Amy Coveno 
Court is back in session. Pastor Phelps is testifying about going to the Leaf Home at Concord Gardens where there is ‘a lot of crying and pain’ He says Tina and Christine are in tears.
by Amy Coveno
Again Pastor Phelps is speaking directly to the jurors. He says it was then revealed that Tina was with child.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps says he has five children himself. He says that he assured the family they would keep this quiet and he encouraged her to get prenatal care.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina Anderson and her brother are not in the courtroom at this point.
by Amy Coveno 
Some of the jurors are looking directly at the Pastor as he speaks , others choose to look at the prosecutor.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps says he contacted Mr. Willis the next day. He says what Willis did is wrong, he was married, over the age of 19 and not married when he engaged in sex with Tina.
by Amy Coveno
Pastor Phelps is now weeping on the stand saying he was very concerned that Ernie would commit suicide. At the time I left the Leaf home my priority was to get Tina to a medical professional.
by Amy Coveno 
Counsel is now conferring with the judge.
by Amy Coveno
The state is asking Phelps about “church discipline”. Phelps says what was going through his mind is: Is this a sin, will this lead to church discipline? Are we living in a way that would please God? But Phelps disputes the prosecution’s implication that Phelps was trying to determine whether standards of acceptable behavior have been violated.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps just checked his notes from October 8, 1997 and says that Ernie told him he had two encounters with Tina about a month apart and that in a meeting later that same day with his wife present he told the Pastor that he was the ‘aggressor’.
by Amy Coveno
The reveal from Pastor Phelps notes about Ernie admitted to two encounters is a pivotal piece of testimony because the defense is disputing the second assault ever happened.
by Amy Coveno
Pastor: Ernie shared with his wife in what had happened. That he had been the aggressor in the relationship with Tina and that she was a child. There was a lot of crying.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor: Tina didn’t want the police to be called. She was scared.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor: We had a room in the house called the Prophet’s Chamber, nicest room in the house! It had a separate access. It had it’s own bathroom, telephone, television. That’s where Tina stayed for one night.
by Amy Coveno
State: She had been expelled from school for being raped.
by Amy Coveno
Pastor: she was expelled from school for being with child. She never used the word rape.
by Amy Coveno 
The Pastor is telling the jury about the Landry family in Colorado who home-schooled their three sons that he thought would be perfect to keep Tina during her pregnancy.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina Anderson is not in the courtroom for this testimony. Pastor Phelps is strongly refuting that Tina was in any way shunned from his church because of her pregnancy.
by Amy Coveno 
There was no money in the Leaf household to pursue other options according to the pastor. The pastor insists that the decision to ship Tina to Colorado was her mother’s not his, he was merely helping and not trying to obstruct the investigation.
by Amy Coveno 
As it is nearly four o’clock, court is adjourning for the day. Pastor Phelps will be back on the stand for more direct examination tomorrow morning starting at 10 am. We are signing off for now to prepare for our WMUR-TV coverage at five and six.
by Amy Coveno /

Read more: http://livewire.wmur.com/Event/Trial_Of_Ernest_Willis_Continues#ixzz1NLkGEEYS

Despicable Mother of the Year Award: Christine Leaf

“Even wild jackals nurture their babies, give them their breasts to suckle. But my people have turned cruel to their babies, like an ostrich in the wilderness.”Lamentations 4:3 (The Message)


Yesterday the rape trial for Ernest Willis began in Concord, NH.  Tina (Dooley) Anderson was 15 when she was raped by Ernest Willis.  At the last-minute, Ernie Willis, admitted to the bare minimum that he did have consensual sex with Tina that resulted in her pregnancy. Tina was 15 at the time.  Willis should not get kudos for doing what he couldn’t get out of.

Tina Anderson was the first to testify.  Ernest Willis’ defense attorney, a woman, set up a large white tablet and asked Tina to recall her menstrual cycle from 14 years ago.  The defense attorney, Donna Brown, line of questioning was uncalled for.  Ernest Willis had already admitted, it is confirmed by DNA, that he is the father of Tina’s child she gave up for adoption.

Chuckles would like to thank some ladies helped Chuckles out by explaining this to a man who doesn’t worry about those things.

“I don’t remember my cycles from G. That was 5 years ago. 6, I guess. Do you REMEMBER (gentlemen, just excuse us here) how dingy we all were at 15? Good grief. I don’t think I even got the hang of it until I was married.” ~C

“Even if a 15-year-old were writing it down, why would she keep records of her cycles this long?!?!?! No woman does that!!!! To quote Tina Anderson, “Give me a break!” I’m praying the jury will.” ~W

I was actually hoping Tina would ask that defense attorney, “…do you remember the dates of yours from when you were 15?” ~W

To add further insult and emotional pain, Tina’s mother Christina Leaf took the stand.  Tina sobbed in the gallery when her mother was asked if she supported Tina responded:

“I only support the truth, not a lie.’’

Christine Leaf testified that her daughter ‘gave her a hard time’. She was ‘stubborn’. Christine admits her daughter had good grades and says she was not aware of any boyfriends or dating.   She testified that sending Tina out-of-state to have her baby “was my idea.” Christine Leaf at first testified that she wanted her daughter to move to Colorado to have a better life. Minutes later she stated,

“I needed to get her out of the house because she was very mean to me.”

Mrs. Leaf appears to be the most selfish woman.

Poor Mrs. Leaf, her daughter was raped by a trusted family friend, get’s pregnant, is not believed by her mother and the powerful pastor of her church.

Poor Mrs. Leaf, her daughter is mean to her after her 16-year-old daughter is made to stand before 100′s of people while her pastor read a letter that Tina was made to write, apologizing for “putting herself in compromising situation,” and getting pregnant.

Poor Mrs. Leaf,  takes back, lives with the monster that she knows molested her daughter, and had beaten both her children, after he is released from prison because she “needed him.”

Poor Mrs. Leaf, continues to attend the same church with her daughters rapist for many years.

Poor Mrs. Leaf sends her daughter hundreds of miles away to live with strangers, when Tina begged to go stay with her grandparents.

Poor, poor Mrs. Leaf you, “needed to get her out of the house because she [Tina] was very mean to me.”

Mrs. Leaf, we get it, you’re the victim.  Poor, poor Mrs. Leaf who made the decision not to protect her own daughter from first your child rapist husband, then the degenerate who likes to rape teenage girls, nor the pastor.  Poor, poor you.

Mrs. Leaf also testified that it was Tina’s sole decision to give her baby up for adoption as Tina sobbed and had to be consoled in the gallery.  Mrs. Leaf testified if she had her way, Tina would have kept the baby.

Christine Leaf’s husband Daniel Leaf is a registered sex offender.  He served 7 years in prison for molesting a child in a McDonald’s bathroom.  While he was in prison, Tina told her mother, Christine Leaf, about Daniel Leaf molesting her.  Before that, Daniel Leaf went to prison for a year and a half for felony child abuse.  He had severely beaten both Tina and her brother.

Mrs. Leaf’s response?  She took her daughter to Pastor Phelps for “counseling.”  According to Tina, she was told she needed to forgive her step-father.  Tina was then taken to the prison where she was told she needed to “forgive and forget” what her step-father had done to be right with God.  Before the trial, Tina’s mother has claimed she was told to do this not by Chuck Phelps but by social workers as part of a family reunification plan.  Chuckles has spoken to eight different child advocates, social workers, who work with Children who have parents in prison.  ALL had practiced in the 1990′s responded, even in the 1990′s, this was not recommended.

For those who doubt that Pastor Phelps may have told Tina and her mother to do this or not.  The type of pastoral Counseling taught at Pastor Chuck Phelps alma mater, tends to blame the victim.  Survivors of physical and sexual abuse are often told that unless they forgive their abuser, God will not hear their prayers.

In their view, forgiveness is not a destination one gets to after working through 5-7 levels, it is demanded as the starting point.

Tina, if you read this, I apologize in advance for what needs to be said about your mother.

Mrs. Leaf, you’re a pathetic human being.