Wrong Focus of Independent Baptist Fundamentalists

Chuckles is ticked!  Really ticked!

Most IFB pastors preach against Rock Music, Contemporary Christian Music, length of hair on men, women who wear pants, whether women are causing men to “stumble” because of how they are dressed, etc. Their University, that was self described as the “bastion of fundamentalism” has so many heavy and petty rules it would make the Pharisees from Jesus’ time tired. They preach on and on about what the Bible is either vague about, or completely silent.  When abuse victims cry out for help they are often told “let go and let God take care of it.”   Even after conviction of Ernie Willis.  Even after Chuck Phelps completely discredited what he has said and written under oath in a criminal triala representative (spokesman,”Staff Evangelist’) from Bob Jones University named,  Mike Schrock wrote the following on Facebook!

“[I have] insider information that makes that he [Phelps] is not hiding anything. I remind you that when it first happened Tina agreed it was consensual, that is why I don’t agree with the juries decision,”

A screen shot of the whole discussion can be read below. Tina never said it was consensual.  Testimony from the trial from both Phelps and Christine Leaf admitted they said it was consensual because they took the word of a degenerate who liked to rape teen girls, over the Tina.  Chuckles has heard from defenders of Phelps that Phelps was trying to save the man’s marriage.  He had a wife and kids.  Tina was young, she would give up her baby, like it was giving up a puppy to the pound. Remember that comment, Phelps made on the under oath that Ernie had more to lose than Tina did? The leaders and many of their followers agree with them.

Recently, Chuckles was told, IF Tina hadn’t become bitter, and been influenced by others, and just given it all over to God, she would have been fine.  After all, she is now married with a husband and children!

Wake up people.  Rape has been called, “soul murder” for a reason!

Leaders of Independent Baptist Fundamentalism continue to refuse to acknowledge there are more serious problems.

Just last night, one of the leaders told me personally that the jury was “rigged” and Tina Anderson lied. He went on to cite that Tina was not “saved.”  He did NOT say, in his opinion.  He was insistent that Tina Anderson was not saved! Obviously the State of New Hampshire is completely incompetent and in on some sort of conspiracy. After all, none of what was charged and lead to convictions EVER happens in these churches … it just doesn’t. All of you who say differently are being bitter and are part of the conspiracy as well. Hope you all see the obvious sarcasm in that last comment.  Sadly, it is not too far off from the way they rationalize things. Problems such as child molestation, rape, are either outright ignored, the victim who speaks out or the victim and those who advocate for them are shunned, and declared “unsaved.”  Hey, Fundamentalist pastors, leaders and followers who say such things.  Chuckles wants to set you straight!

There’s a God in heaven and He ain’t you!

I have heard domestic abuse perpetrated by husbands is sometimes praised by Pastors from the pulpit. I heard a pastor tell the men in his congregation that it was sometimes necessary to spank their wives into submission. Chuckles walked out of a service where pastor was giving demonstrations about how to spank properly using a real child!

Close friend of the late Matthew Jarrell is just more vocal.  Phil Kidd says publically, what many preachers only say to their most brainwashed members. Phil Kidd was a close friend of the serial rapist Matthew Jarrell.  Phil Kidd wrote, “Hey Lady Shut Up.”  Phil Kidd,   said in a sermon he was preaching that some women needed to be raped to learn submission.   Phil Kidd openly racist, even sporting his confederate boxing gloves and confederate flag tie.  The late Matthew Jarrell’s good friend, Phil Kidd is known to scream words from the pulpit that you wouldn’t hear from the most crime ridden part of a inner city, or the sleaziest bar.  Phil Kidd had the nerve to write this about cults.

Until the silent majority in these churches and colleges wake up, and demand accountability! Until the ‘Amen Joe’s’ stop treating these men like god in the pulpit and demand accountablity, we are going to see more Tina Anderson’s, and more pastors and leaders who are caught covering up things, or perpetrating evil “of a kind that is not tolerated even among pagans…”

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Pastor Matthew Jarrell wrote the following in September 2003. Matthew Jarrell  was still the Pastor of Old Path’s Baptist Church in Pennsylvania.  This was published after Jarrell was arrested for soliciting a prostitute who was actually a undercover policewoman in Baltimore MD.  The date of his arrest was April 15, 2003. Two guns were also found in his truck at the time of the arrest.   Jarrell plead guilty and was sentenced to eighteen-months probation for the gun charges.

BUILDING CHURCHES AFTER WHOM?

Two of my dear preacher friends and I attended a meeting a while back in what was supposed to be a fundamental, independent, Baptist church. When I got there I was disturbed and troubled by what I saw. The church reminded me of some of the worldly establishments that I hung out at when I was lost. When I heard the music I thought I was back in a bar. Here I was in a church, listening to the same rock music that God had saved me from. Latter when I left, I picked up a church brochure and it boasted that contemporary music was the official church music. Reader, the concept of contemporary by definition means to be in step with the world. When churches feel a need to get in step with the world and its music, they are getting out of step with God! New versions of the Bible, and false doctrines will always follow. Understand, “contemporary” is not just music, it also includes a whole package deal from the Devil. Let’s face it, many of our churches are not influencing the world as much as the world is influencing them. This should not be!

At this meeting, the music, dress standards and general atmosphere reminded me more of a worldly establishment than the sacred house of God. During the service they had a special group in to sing. As I sat in the back of the church with my preacher friends, a woman in the pew across the aisle from us stood up on her pew and started swaying and clapping her hands to the beat of the music. In the pew right behind her was a man that had hair longer than my wife. He sat gawking at the woman who was standing on her pew a foot or so in front of him. Did I mention that the slit in her skirt went almost to her waist? (Maybe she thought she needed this to help her climb up on her pew faster.) When we left I stopped and shook this man’s hand and asked him if he was a member of this church. The man looked at me and said “no but I sure would like to become a part of this.” I wonder why? The truth is that this man did not want anything to do with God but rather the worldly music and the worldly dress and all the flesh that made him feel right at home in his natural environment.

The Bible says in Ephesians 4:24 “And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.” The new man is after whom? God! The new man is created in what? Righteousness and true holiness! I fear that we are building our churches after social clubs instead of churches. Reader, don’t get mad at your preacher when he preaches standards and holiness. My flesh, unfortunately, has tasted too much of the world. I know first hand what it looks like, sounds like, and acts like. Now that I am saved I need God’s way, not man’s way! I want to encourage you to COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM AND BE YE SEPARATE. Let’s build our churches after God not after the World!

Dr. Matt Jarrell,
Pastor, Old Paths Baptist Church, York, PA.

Another Skeleton falling out of the Closet of Trinity Baptist Church, NH?

According to the Concord, New Hampshire newspaper, Union Leader, another woman who currently resides in California came forward the week of Ernie Willis’ rape trial alleging she too was sexually assaulted while attending Trinity Baptist Church, Concord, NH.   According to the report, the woman states she was sexually assaulted by a Trinity Baptist Church member while she was a minor around the same time Tina Anderson was raped by Ernie Willis.

Last week, Ernie Willis was found guilty of three counts of forcible rape and two counts of felonious sexual assault. 

Pastor Chuck Phelps would have been the pastor of Trinity Baptist when this alleged assault occurred aswell.  More information will likely be forthcoming.

Matthew Jarrell Other Victims?

Matthew Jarrell Mugshot

A woman leaves a bar where a nice clean-cut Independent Baptist Fundamental Pastor from Texas had been chatting with her.  She waits for a cab.  While waiting for her cab to arrive, the same clean-cut man approaches her as she is standing waiting and offers her a ride home  The woman, thinking he looked like a good man,  after all he is a pastor no less. She gets into his truck with the pastor because she is thankful for the offer.  The man, the pastor had other plans.  He did not take her home, instead he takes her to a secluded area, where he sodomizes her.  The woman escapes after her attackers truck gets stuck in the mud. When the local Sheriff deputy arrives he finds the truck stuck in the mud just as the woman said with a man fitting her description in the truck.  At first the pastor, denies having sex with the woman, but then admits it, is arrested and is committed to the county jail.  Records search reveal he had a sexual assault charge pending from Texas.  Search of the pastors truck produce a rape kit,

or, perhaps worse a rape/murder kit.

The kit they found consisted of two knives, a stun gun, leather gloves, a leather police badge holder with no badge inside. A gold, five-pointed-star badge was found under the steering wheel dash video equipment and a machete. Two days later, while the pastor who had been traveling across the country was being held in the county jail is found hanging from a bed sheet in his cell.  He knew his gig was up. The case of Matthew Jarrell could be a script from Criminal Minds.

According to Detective Cpl. L.S. Deitz of the Kanawha County (W.Va.) Sheriff’s Office this is not a script from a TV Crime Drama produced by Hollywood. This has now turned into a real nationwide investigation for more potential victims.  Matthew Jarrell’s arrest information from West Virginia and Texas. 

“We’re looking at the whole entire country, because of his travels,” Deitz said.

Just after he was arrested, deputies in West Virginia took a sample of Jarrell’s DNA. The sample will be sent to the FBI’s Combined DNA Index System, to see if it matches DNA collected as evidence in any cases nationwide.

“You have a four-year time span,” said Detective Cpl. L.S. Deitz of the Kanawha County (W.Va.) Sheriff’s Office. “Most people, when they commit crimes . . . most likely, there are additional incidences that they have not been caught for. . . . We’re wondering exactly what he has done, if anything.”

If you, or anyone you know has further information, or perhaps you were a victim of Matthew Jarrell contact your local police department, or Detective Deitz at the below information.

Phone: (304)357-0200

Mailing Address:
PO Box 75087
Charleston, West Virginia 25375

Physical Address:
409 Virginia Street East, Room 280
Charleston, West Virginia 25301

 Update:  I know nothing about the man who made these two videos talking about Jarrell’s past.  This man is a IFB pastors son, who knew Jarrell from before Jarrell moved to Pennsylvania from Petersburg Virginia according to this man.  Appears Pastor Jarrell left quite a wake of abuse and disrespect behind him.

Part One

Part Two

Two Sides of Matthew Jarrell

Pastor Matthew Jarrell was the pastor of Open Door Baptist Church, Mesquite Texas.  Pastor Jarrell was a traveling preacher.  He also liked to do other things when he traveled.  According to the West Virginia authorities, Matthew Jarrell was arrested and charged on Thursday, May 19, 2011 for second-degree sexual assault.  The West Virginia criminal complaint alleged that Jarrett met a woman at a bar in Charleston, WV, offered her a ride home, then sodomized the woman in his truck.   According to officials at the South Central Regional Jail in Kanawha County, WV, Jarrell was found hanging from a bed sheet in his cell.  He was pronounced dead at a local hospital where he was taken at 12:30am Sunday, May 22, 2011.

Matthew Jarrell Mugshot

Trouble seemed to follow Matthew Jarrell who once attended Hyles-Anderson college. Matthew Jarrell was at Old Paths Baptist Church in Pennsylvania from 1997 to 2003. Back in 1999, the Old Paths Baptist Church parsonage where the Jarrell family was living at the time burned down.  The house fire was ruled accidental.  In October 2001, lightening seemed to strike again when another fire gutted Old Path’s Baptist Church itself.  That fire was ruled an arson by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosions. but no arrests were made at the time.

There were rumors of sexual misconduct with a teenage girl in his Pennsylvania church too.  No court records can be found to substantiate this.  However, on April 15, 2003, Jarrell was had his first arrest. Jarrell was arrested for soliciting a prostitute who was actually a undercover policewoman in Baltimore MD.  Two guns were also found in his truck at the time of the arrest.  Apparently, Jarrell plead guilty and was sentenced to eighteen-months probation for the gun charges.

After his probation was complete in 2004, Jarrell moved with his family to become the Senior pastor of Open Door Baptist Church in Mesquite, Tx.  It is not known whether the church knew about his troubles in Pennsylvania or in Baltimore.  It is not known whether the church did a background check on their new pastor.

Jarrell was next arrested in San Antonio, TX, in 2007.  A grand jury in San Antonio indicted him on a second-degree felony charge of sexual assault on Dec. 19, 2007.  According to the complaint, Jarrell forced a woman to preform oral sex on him under threat of “force and violence.”  Jarrell was released on $50,000.00 bond.  Reportedly he did tell his associate pastor that he was arrested for what Jarrell said were “gun charges.”  The congregation apparently was never told, nor did his associate pastor check into what the charges actually were.  This 2007 case was still pending when he was arrested in West Virginia.

According to investigators in West Virginia,  Matthew Jarrell first denied the May 19, 2011 assault, then confessed.  Apparently his friends and family in Texas thought Matthew Jarrell was in Pennsylvania at a Fundamental Baptist pastors conference.

It now appears that Jarrell knew his double life as a pastor in one side of his life, and a serial rapist on the other were exposed now.  There was no way to talk his way out of it this time.  It appears his training from Hyles-Anderson College taught him well.  Looks like Jarrell had honors in  “Liar 101,”” Pulling the wool over 102,” “Denial and how to be successful at it 201.” “Abusing others while making it look Biblical 301,” and “How to Manipulate others with guilt 302.”

Prayers and healing for his sexual assault victims, and to his wife and their four children who are also victims of Matthew Jarrell’s double life.

God Counts Tears

“Men should be careful lest they cause women to weep, for God counts their tears.” ~ The Talmud

Was willing to give Chuck Phelps the benefit of the doubt that Pastor Phelps was busy traveling back in Indianapolis after testifying last week as a hostile witness for the prosecution in the rape trial of Ernest Willis. For that reason I gave a few days for Pastor Chuck Phelps to get his act together either completely remove his now proven lies as a result of his sworn testimony. Gave Phelps a chance to at least  post some serious Mea culpa, and apologize on his website that he had set up the same evening the 20/20 episode was aired attacking the credibility of the victim, Tina Anderson.  Since none of that was forthcoming it is time for this post.

Those who like to quote this blog out of context will probably leave the out two words, hostile witness. The term hostile (adverse) witness is defined as:

A witness who is called by or associated with an opposing party or who by statement, conduct, or other evidence (as of relationship) shows bias against or is injurious to the case of the party by whom the witness is called.

Here is just part of what Phelps testified to under oath.

“Pastor Phelps just checked his notes from October 8, 1997 and says that Ernie told him he had two encounters with Tina about a month apart and that in a meeting later that same day with his wife present he told the Pastor that he was the ‘aggressor’.

When questioned why Tina was expelled from Trinity Baptist Christian School, Chuck Phelps testified:

 “She [Tina] was expelled from school for being with child. She never used the word rape.”

Remember, only a few minutes before Chuck Phelps used the words, “two encounters,” and “aggressor” in his testimony.  Yet, Phelps blamed the victim because a 15 year old terrified, confused, girl from an abusive home did not use the word, “rape?”  Phelps, further testified he knew from be beginning that Ernie Willis was the father of Tina’s unborn baby.  Phelps also testified that he had made the introductions to Tina’s mother to send Tina to Colorado, to live with friends of HIS until Tina gave birth. Everything, Tina said for over the last year was proven to be true by the disclosure of Chuck Phelps own notes that his attorney worked so hard to be kept out.  We now know why, Phelps did not want those notes in.  We now know why, Phelps was labeled a hostile witness by the prosecution.

Also Phelps read the following verse as he testified in the trial, and then said it was ridiculous that people would think he was telling a 15 year old she would have been stoned in Old Testament times.

 “If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her,  then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them  to death, the girl because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he violated another man’s wife.”

Does Chuck Phelps, or does Chuck Phelps not believe what he  preaches about the literal interpretation of the Bible?  Why would a teen girl who has been preached at, day in and day out to take the Bible literally, not then to be reasonably expected to take the Bible literally when her  pastor reads such a verse?  Is it that literal interpretation is only when it is “convenient” for the pastor to get across a point?

Chuck Phelps is ‘on record’ with his statements, as well as other leaders in the Independent Baptist Fundamentalist , and that includes their ‘supporters’. Their own statements show where they stand.  They have indicated no intention of changing that stand. Chuck Phelps is just one member of this group. They are all behaving in ways that attract the attention of predators who are looking for a safe place to land where they will not be ‘caught out’, and where their victims will  know if they will not be given a fair hearing because victims have a history being denigrated.

In short, the ‘message’ is that the IFB is willing not to shine a light on known  predators while being quick to blame the victim.

I also now believe it’s not just the ‘leaders’ and their ‘statements’ and lack of action that is totally the problem. They have their shrilly voices and their ‘Amen Joe’s’ who back them up.  Each and every one of them is also a part of the problem.

“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter”Isaiah 5:20

Unlike the victims, these leaders, and their ‘Amen Joe’s” can make the choice to travel a different way and stand up for the victims over the perpetrators.

Stay tuned, once the complete trial transcripts of Ernie Willis’ rape trial are made available those transcripts will  be posted on this blog.  The jury’s verdict needs to be sealed by the judge and sentencing is yet to be handed down.  Willis may expect to face at least fifty-years behind bars.

Under the Wheels of the Chuck Phelps Bus

Yesterday afternoon, David Gibbs III, who represents both Chuck Phelps and Christine Leaf, lost last minute legal wrangling citing “pastoral privilege.”  According to reports,  David Gibbs III argued that should not be included since Chuck Phelps’ “copious notes” had been handed over to the Concord Police Department without his knowledge.  Judge Larry Smukler ruled against the argument of pastoral privilege by David Gibbs III.

Merrimack County Superior Court Judge Larry Smukler talks with Assistant County Attorney Wayne Coull, left, and Public Defenders, Brooksley and Donna Brown, during a hearing for Ernest Willis.

It appeared that Chuck Phelps may have forgotten he was not preaching to his flock, but instead testifying in a court of law.  When asked a question, Phelps did not just answer the question, he talked and he talked and he talked.

Of course, making sure to only make eye contact with the jury.

Pastor Phelps says people in his church are taught that pre marital sex is wrong but they are not taught to look down on those who sin. He is describing the guidelines at the school regarding dress codes and behavior.

Chuck, you are such a joker.   Really?  This is like saying a Catholic doesn’t need to go to confession.

Chuck Phelps “copious notes” that were turned over to the Concord Police without his knowlege contained some interesting things.

In Chuck Phelps interview with 20/20 Phelps said he did not know that Ernie Willis was the father of Tina’s baby.  Phelps said that Tina accused a man of a crime but did not know that a crime had been committed.

According to Phelps testimony, his “copious notes” revealed,

Pastor Phelps just checked his notes from October 8, 1997 and says that Ernie told him he had two encounters with Tina about a month apart and that in a meeting later that same day with his wife present he told the Pastor that he was the ‘aggressor’. He [Phelps] says it was then revealed that Tina was with child.

uh OH!

Chuck Phelps pulled one of the oldest trick in the Independent Baptist Fundamentalist, preacher play book.  He turned on the waterworks.  Phelps cried as he recounted that he was concerned Ernie Willis may have been suicidal, after Willis had admitted that he was the ‘aggressor’ on Tina Anderson.  Absent from Phelps testimony was any crying, and concern over the fact that a teenage sexual assault victim may be suicidal.  Wonder why, Chuck didn’t call the Concord Police, or escort Willis to the Concord Police Department where Willis would have been “safe” on suicide watch in the county jail?

Phelps also testified that he that he knew the family in Colorado that homeschooled their three boys. Phelps testified that this family would be perfect to keep Tina during her pregnancy.

Is it a wise decision to send this vulnerable teen girl halfway across a continent, to a place where she would not know anyone, to live in a home with a family of only boys?

Wait a minute. He knew the family….perfect…keep Tina?

Thought Phelps had no say in sending Tina to Colorado. Didn’t Mrs. Leaf testify to that earlier?

uh OH!

Later in the testimony, Phelps told the prosecutor that he wanted to be on the side of the prosecution for over a year.

Really?  Phelps you are such the joker!  Why didn’t you come forward, cooperating with the investigation, not attacking the victim on your website, etc?

Phelps complained he was thrown under the bus by the media.

Chuck, the floorboards under the drivers seat of the bus you were driving were rotted through.  Chuck you just fell under the wheels of the bus you were driving.  Chuck Phelps took Ernie Willis and Christine Leaf under the bus tires along with him.  Furthermore, Phelps proved that Tina was telling the truth.

Meanwhile, the boys club over on Sharper Iron are still arguing over whether Tina should have been Church disciplined or not.  Even fight over what the word “aggressor” means.

Oh how Chuckles longs for the sound of silence by the Sharper Iron folks.

Trial Transcript Day 2 by Amy Covino

Good Morning. There has been a delay in the start of the trial due to the probation hearing on a different case in this same courtroom.
by Amy Coveno
Lots of negotiating for seats here in Courtroom 1 at Superior Court. More media has arrived today.
by Amy Coveno 
At one point Attorney David Gibbs III who we are told is here on behalf of the Fundamental Baptist Church was seated next to where the victim Tina Anderson was sitting. Prosecutor Wayne Coull worked to rearrange the seating and move Gibbs further down the bench from Anderson.
by Amy Coveno
Chuckles here:  Doesn’t it appear strange to anyone but me that this wasn’t “accidental?” Does it appear to anyone by me, that it was a strategy of some sort? David Gibbs III is representing both Chuck Phelps and Tina’s mother, Christine Leaf. How is it that an an experienced attorney would not know that he could not sit next to the victim at her rapists trial when one of his clients has been labeled a ‘hostile witness’ by the prosecution?
Christine Leaf is on the witness stand. We are waiting for the arrival of the jury and Judge SMurkle.
by Amy Coveno 
The jury has just arrived and so has the judge. Prosecutor Wayne Coull is continuing his direct examination of Christine Leaf who is Tina’s mother. Tina testified that the two do not have a relationship at this point.
by Amy Coveno 
“Who is Barbara Kingsbury?” Coull asks. “My sister-in-law.” Christine Leaf answers.
by Amy Coveno
“Do you deny that people were trying to reach out to Tina when she was sent to Colorado?” Christine Leaf: no. People were trying to put their arms around her.
by Amy Coveno 
Now Coull is asking about Pastor Phelps role in the decisions made after Tina disclosed that she was pregnant and the father was Ernie Willis.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Leaf is now answering questions about the apology from Ernie Willis to Tina- “He apologized for having sex with my daughter,” Said Leaf. This happened at the Phelps home.
by Amy Coveno 
Leaf is testifying that she has no recollection of time because it was 14 years ago and a ‘difficult’ time. The prosecutor is asking yes/no questions to Leaf about her decision to send Tina away during her pregnancy.
by Amy Coveno 
Leaf admits in court that she told Concord Police that Tina Anderson did NOT want to talk with them.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina’s brother Tom Dooley is in court today. He just left the courtroom, seemingly, upset. His mother is testifying about how “Tina was mean to her when she was pregnant and called her a ‘ditz’.
by Amy Coveno 
State: You made no effort to follow up with police did you? Christine Leaf: Why should I? They have the information.
by Amy Coveno 
The prosecutor is now presenting a letter that is posted on Dr. Chuck Phelps website. Christine identifies it as the letter. She says it was sent for the 20/20 program about this case.
by Amy Coveno 
State: in that letter you say that Tina is out for money. Leaf: yes. State: But Tina never asked for money. Leaf: That’s not true. She needed money for the down payment of a house and we sent her some money from a worker’s comp settlement. She paid back half.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Leaf: This whole trial is supposed to be about Ernie Willis, not me. She isn’t interested in getting even with him.
by Amy Coveno
Tina Anderson is quietly weeping during her mother’s testimony.
by Amy Coveno 
The state has handed this witness over to the defense who is now conducting cross examination. Donna Brown is asking Mrs. Leaf about a 1997 meeting where Tina told her she was pregnant. Tina said it was consensual, correct? Christine: She never said that to me but she never said it was rape.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Leaf: Tina did not want me to report this to the police. She yelled at me. Donna Brown: If she had said she was forcibly raped you would have gone to the police. Leaf: yes.
by Amy Coveno 
Brown: You didn’t push it with police was because Tina never said it was forcible rape. Leaf: Correct.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Leaf says she has a bachelor’s degree in criminal justice as well as an MBA so when her daughter claimed that Daniel Leaf ‘touched her sexually’ Christine said she knew she had to report her claim.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps was involved with the incident with Mr. Willis because he was called by someone else. Pastor Phelps did not run my daily life, says Christine Leaf.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps had no authority to tell Tina to go to the prison to forgive Daniel Leaf because DCYF was in my life, says Christine Leaf.
by Amy Coveno 
Attorneys are now having a sidebar discussion with the judge.
by Amy Coveno 
Ernest Willis is seated at the defense table, his face does not reveal any emotion.
by Amy Coveno 
The jury of eight men and six women appears rested and attentive.
by Amy Coveno 
Donna Brown is asking Christine Leaf to explain her statement that she believes her daughter is ‘out for money’. From either the church and/or Pastor Phelps.
by Amy Coveno 
The state now has the witness on re-direct. No matter what, a crime occurred, right? Yes, sir, answers Christine Leaf. Leaf says police had reports by two people. State: did you think it was in your daugther’s best interest to NOT speak with police. Leaf: I didn’t ask them to NOT speak with her.
by Amy Coveno 
Leaf: I can’t force my daughter to do anything. Prosecutor Coull: Except force her to move to Colorado to live with strangers and be away from her family and friends. Leaf: It was the right thing to do.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Leaf has been excused. Now Barbara Kingsbury is now on the stand. She is married to Jerry Kingsbury, they live in Boscawen. She says she was born in NH. Barbara says she has two children, 25 and 33 years old. She says Tina Anderson is her niece.
by Amy Coveno 
Barbara is telling the court that Tom and Tina came to live with her after Christine Leaf realized there were marks on the kids and she didn’t want Arizona authorities to take the kids so she wanted to get them out of the same house with her husband, Daniel Leaf.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina Anderson is seated in the front row and is nodding at this testimony at times as if she agrees.
by Amy Coveno
Cross examination underway now of Barbara Kingsbury. Tom Dooley has taken his seat in the courtroom again.
by Amy Coveno 
The cross by defense attorney Brooksley Belanger was brief. She questioned the closeness of the relationship between Christine Leaf and Barbara Kingsbury. Kingsbury has been excused. We are now waiting on the next witness.
by Amy Coveno 
Matt Barnhart is now on the stand. He is a business owner, he delivers Pepperidge Farm Bread.
by Amy Coveno 
His wife is Chrisine Barnhart. They have four children. He formerly worked for Fidelity Investments. He is a former member of the Trinity Baptist Church.
by Amy Coveno 
Matt Barnhart is recalling the discipline service at Trinity Baptist Church where Ernie Willis admitted to being unfaithful to his wife and Tina Anderson admitted to being pregnant and apologized for allowing a ‘compromising situation.’
by Amy Coveno 
Matt Barnhart is excused. We are now waiting for the next witness to be called. The judge has called counsel to the bench.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Barnhart, Matt’s wife is now being sworn in. They have been married nearly 19 years. She says she was a member of the Trinity Baptist Church in 1994 they joined. She helped with the nursery and the Kiawana program that teaches the kids bible verses. She taught the four year olds.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine is recalling meeting Tina Dooley(now Anderson) She describes her as a social butterfly and this makes Tina smile a little court.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine recalls Tina ‘quiet’ in 1998. She was present for the admission from Tina at the end of a church service. They called it “church discipline”.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine says Ernie Willis and Tina Anderson were brought forward to the front of the church. She says pastor brought Willis first- he was disciplined for a marital affair. She believes just Pastor Phelps spoke. Then Tina was brought forward, she was disciplined because she was pregnant. She was spoken for says Christine, Chuck Phelps did the talking.
by Amy Coveno
 
Christine says she was mortified. She says they were presented as two separate events.
by Amy Coveno 
No cross examination of Christine, she is excused. The fifth witness of the day is Dawn Fisher. She lives in Concord NH, of and on for ten years. She is 30 years old with two children. Her husband works for State of NH in weights and measures. This witness smiles easily.
by Amy Coveno 
Dawn Fisher says she went to Trinity Christian School with Tina Dooley ( Now Anderson). She says there were 12 students in her graduating class.
by Amy Coveno 
Dawn says the church and the school were a big part of her life growing up and that she was taught that pre marital sex was absolutely forbidden.
by Amy Coveno 
She says it was something that was understood, that it wasn’t ‘pounded over our heads’. Dawn Fisher is recalling knowing Ernest Willis. She is now recalling being asked to leave the church at the end of a Sunday evening service.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Barnhart has been excused, no cross examination. We are now waiting on the next witness.
by Amy Coveno 
The sixth witness of the day is Frances Earle. She has a grown son and two grandchildren. She is retired. She has apartment rentals that they own in the city. She does accounting and office work for the rentals.by Amy Coveno

Frances is recalling knowing Tina Dooley(Anderson) from Trinity Baptist Church. Frances was the church clerk for 14 years.
by Amy Coveno
Frances left the church ten years ago.
by Amy Coveno
Frances says she met Tina when she was 7 or 8 years old.
by Amy Coveno 
Frances is being asked to recount the discipline session at the church involving Tina and Ernie Willis. Frances says Ernie’s wife got up and left and Pastor Phelps got up in front of the church and explains to the congregation that Ernie Willis has been unfaithful to his wife. I was stunned says Frances and she asked her husband why is that our business…that should be worked out between them and not the congregation.
by Amy Coveno 
“Pastor Phelps said it was very unusual to have two types of discipline on one night and then Tina got up and they made her read a letter aloud.” Frances Earle testifies. Frances says never did Pastor Phelps say the two were connected. Frances says Tina looked scared to death.
by Amy Coveno 
We are back inside Courtroom 1 here at Superior Court in Concord. We’re told that Pastor Phelps will testify next. The gallery is very full. We’ve been advised there could be a strong reaction from many in the gallery during Pastor Phelps’ testimony.
by Amy Coveno
Counsel just left the courtroom. We’re not sure what the delay is about.
by Amy Coveno 
We are still waiting for the trial to reconvene.
by Amy Coveno
Defense Counsel has just returned to the courtroom, Ernie Willis is taking his place at the defense table. Prosecutor Wayne Coull is coaching the gallery telling them this will probably be an emotional moment when Pastor Phelps takes the stand. Many have not seen him for years. The prosecutor warns the gallery to refrain from any emotional outburst as that could prompt a mistrial.
by Amy Coveno
Pastor Chuck Phelps is taking the stand now. But the Jury is not here yet. The prosecutor has some ‘housekeeping’ questions to address with Phelps ahead of the jury’s arrival. He was Senior Pastor in 1997 of Trinity Baptist Church in Concord.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps is defining “congregational governance” to the court saying he had not control over the finances and other fundamental elements of the church. He says there were 600-700 parishioners in 1997.
by Amy Coveno
Pastor Phelps is recalling a distress call that had him and his wife respond to the Leaf home for a meeting with Tina Anderson, her mother and other. He learns that Tina is with child from Ernie Willis. Tina was 16 at the time of disclosure. He realizes she may have been 15 at the time of conception.
by Amy Coveno
The next day Pastor Phelps says he reached out to Ernie Willis.
by Amy Coveno
Phelps is recounting confronting Ernie Willis with the information. He says Ernie told him what happened. Phelps was conducting a bit of an investigation about the behavior that some of his parishioners were engaging in.
by Amy Coveno 
Phelps is recalling additional conversations with Tina, his wife and her mother were present as well as additional meetings with Ernest Willis.
by Amy Coveno 
Ernie confessed to his wife abut sexual activity outside of marriage with Pastor Phelps and his wife present.
by Amy Coveno 
Ernie Willis and his wife are since divorced according to those close to this case in the courtroom.
by Amy Coveno 
Phelps: Ernie told the congregation that he violated his marital vows.
by Amy Coveno 
The Dr. Chuck Phelps.com website is now being discussed particularly with reference to this case. Phelps says he is trying to protect himself and his family from death threats they have received. He referencing 20/20 program and the Concord Monitor’s article that ‘blamed’ him when the story broke in 2010.
by Amy Coveno
Phelps says he uses his website to combat untruths that are coming out about his involvement in the Tina Anderson sex assault and subsequent pregnancy.
by Amy Coveno 
No more questions from the State regarding disclosure. Now the defense is conducting ‘voir dire’ again this is all prior to the jury being brought in. It appears Pastor Phelps web page is at the center of this q and a prior to jury involvement.
by Amy Coveno 
We’ve learned by talking with prosecutors that at issue are notes that Pastor Phelps made during counseling sessions with Ernie Willis that were turned over the Concord Police without Pastor Phelps knowledge. Phelps’ attorney are arguing a violation of Pastoral Privilege and trying to make the notes inadmissible. The judge is now deliberating his decision and we are in recess.
by Amy Coveno 
The judge says he believes there is no privilege. The judge will provide a written order that causes him him to conclude that the rule of privilege does not apply. The judge is addressing Pastor Phelps about being asked difficult questions that he may feel he cannot answer them without violating pastoral privilege. The judge says the court is ordering the Pastor to answer the questions rather them the Pastor offering the information.
by Amy Coveno 
The jury has returned to their places. And Pastor Charles Phelps is being sworn in . He lives in Indianapolis Indiana with his family for the past two years. He was pastor of the Trinity Baptist Church here in Concord from 1989-2007.
by Amy Coveno
Pastor Phelps is addressing the jury directly. He is making eye contact and his body is angled toward the jury. He appears comfortable and confident.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps says people in his church are taught that pre marital sex is wrong but they are not taught to look down on those who sin. He is describing the guidelines at the school regarding dress codes and behavior.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina Anderson is shaking her head and crying as Pastor Phelps denies on the stand that Tina ever told him about being physically and sexually abused by Dan Leaf.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps says in 30 years of ministry he’s never forgotten a child who’s come to him to confide that he or she is being sexually or physically abused.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina Anderson is crying and struggling to maintain her composure. Her brother Tom is offering comfort.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps: I never told Tina to go to prison to see her step-father. Forgive and forget is so contrary to my training and my philosophy, I teach confront.
by Amy Coveno 
The judge has just called counsel to the bench.
by Amy Coveno 
We are taking a brief recess. The jury is leaving the courtroom.
by Amy Coveno 
Court is back in session. Pastor Phelps is testifying about going to the Leaf Home at Concord Gardens where there is ‘a lot of crying and pain’ He says Tina and Christine are in tears.
by Amy Coveno
Again Pastor Phelps is speaking directly to the jurors. He says it was then revealed that Tina was with child.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps says he has five children himself. He says that he assured the family they would keep this quiet and he encouraged her to get prenatal care.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina Anderson and her brother are not in the courtroom at this point.
by Amy Coveno 
Some of the jurors are looking directly at the Pastor as he speaks , others choose to look at the prosecutor.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps says he contacted Mr. Willis the next day. He says what Willis did is wrong, he was married, over the age of 19 and not married when he engaged in sex with Tina.
by Amy Coveno
Pastor Phelps is now weeping on the stand saying he was very concerned that Ernie would commit suicide. At the time I left the Leaf home my priority was to get Tina to a medical professional.
by Amy Coveno 
Counsel is now conferring with the judge.
by Amy Coveno
The state is asking Phelps about “church discipline”. Phelps says what was going through his mind is: Is this a sin, will this lead to church discipline? Are we living in a way that would please God? But Phelps disputes the prosecution’s implication that Phelps was trying to determine whether standards of acceptable behavior have been violated.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor Phelps just checked his notes from October 8, 1997 and says that Ernie told him he had two encounters with Tina about a month apart and that in a meeting later that same day with his wife present he told the Pastor that he was the ‘aggressor’.
by Amy Coveno
The reveal from Pastor Phelps notes about Ernie admitted to two encounters is a pivotal piece of testimony because the defense is disputing the second assault ever happened.
by Amy Coveno
Pastor: Ernie shared with his wife in what had happened. That he had been the aggressor in the relationship with Tina and that she was a child. There was a lot of crying.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor: Tina didn’t want the police to be called. She was scared.
by Amy Coveno 
Pastor: We had a room in the house called the Prophet’s Chamber, nicest room in the house! It had a separate access. It had it’s own bathroom, telephone, television. That’s where Tina stayed for one night.
by Amy Coveno
State: She had been expelled from school for being raped.
by Amy Coveno
Pastor: she was expelled from school for being with child. She never used the word rape.
by Amy Coveno 
The Pastor is telling the jury about the Landry family in Colorado who home-schooled their three sons that he thought would be perfect to keep Tina during her pregnancy.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina Anderson is not in the courtroom for this testimony. Pastor Phelps is strongly refuting that Tina was in any way shunned from his church because of her pregnancy.
by Amy Coveno 
There was no money in the Leaf household to pursue other options according to the pastor. The pastor insists that the decision to ship Tina to Colorado was her mother’s not his, he was merely helping and not trying to obstruct the investigation.
by Amy Coveno 
As it is nearly four o’clock, court is adjourning for the day. Pastor Phelps will be back on the stand for more direct examination tomorrow morning starting at 10 am. We are signing off for now to prepare for our WMUR-TV coverage at five and six.
by Amy Coveno /

Read more: http://livewire.wmur.com/Event/Trial_Of_Ernest_Willis_Continues#ixzz1NLkGEEYS

Confused and a Bit Amused …

C.P. Traveler checking in again with my thoughts on what the media provided regarding today’s testimony.  Frankly, as a father of a teenage girl, I’m a bit confused …

We’ll start with Ms. Leaf.  I wasn’t there and didn’t see it first-hand, but does she sound angry to anybody else?  Even if her teenage daughter was a bit rebellious, I’m sensing way more than the elapsed time of over a decade ought to bring.  Frankly, I’m not sure there is now or ever was a parent of a teen who didn’t feel overwhelmed at some point.  But that’s not what is really confusing me about her statements.

If Tina is “in this for the money” then why on earth are we in a criminal trial?  She’s not the plaintiff here.  The jury will not be awarding damages.  They will be handing down a verdict on Mr. Willis – and ONLY Mr. Willis.  Neither Ms. Leaf nor Mr. Phelps are on trial (at this point), yet they both seem to be supporting (and then contradicting) the absurd position of the defense counsel.

I don’t know about the rest of you, but if my teenage daughter came and told me she was pregnant, I would be pretty upset.  If there were any hint that it was not a result of some teenage boy (remember, we’ve not heard anybody talk about boys Tina was seeing to this point) but was, in fact, an assault by somebody I had trusted, I’m pretty sure I’d be locked up for murder or at the very least assault with intent.  And if the police (to whom I’d most definitely report it) weren’t aggressive enough in investigating, I’d be there so much they’d have to be on the verge of a restraining order.

Friends, that’s just how a parent responds.  And that makes what we read pretty confusing in my book.  Ms. Leaf is acting more like a rebellious teen in my opinion.  I’m just wondering what makes a mother make the choices she has made and now attack her own daughter.

It became painfully obvious why Mr. Phelps and Mr. Willis wanted notes kept out of the public eye.  They directly contradict the claim of a one-time, consensual encounter.  Two incidents were admitted in those notes, matching what Tina already testified to saying.  Plus, the use of the word “aggressor” really doesn’t give much credence to the claim of consent, now does it?

We’ll see just what tomorrow brings as Phelps finishes up.  Were I a betting man, I’d wager Mr. Willis will start wishing he’d taken the plea bargain offered a couple weeks ago by the end of this week.  Federal prison is not the most hospitable place, and I’d rather not spend 5 minutes there, let alone most of the rest of my natural life.

Keep modeling Christ, Tina!  There are far more supporting you than you can possibly imagine.

In His Grace alone,

C.P. Traveler

Despicable Mother of the Year Award: Christine Leaf

“Even wild jackals nurture their babies, give them their breasts to suckle. But my people have turned cruel to their babies, like an ostrich in the wilderness.”Lamentations 4:3 (The Message)


Yesterday the rape trial for Ernest Willis began in Concord, NH.  Tina (Dooley) Anderson was 15 when she was raped by Ernest Willis.  At the last-minute, Ernie Willis, admitted to the bare minimum that he did have consensual sex with Tina that resulted in her pregnancy. Tina was 15 at the time.  Willis should not get kudos for doing what he couldn’t get out of.

Tina Anderson was the first to testify.  Ernest Willis’ defense attorney, a woman, set up a large white tablet and asked Tina to recall her menstrual cycle from 14 years ago.  The defense attorney, Donna Brown, line of questioning was uncalled for.  Ernest Willis had already admitted, it is confirmed by DNA, that he is the father of Tina’s child she gave up for adoption.

Chuckles would like to thank some ladies helped Chuckles out by explaining this to a man who doesn’t worry about those things.

“I don’t remember my cycles from G. That was 5 years ago. 6, I guess. Do you REMEMBER (gentlemen, just excuse us here) how dingy we all were at 15? Good grief. I don’t think I even got the hang of it until I was married.” ~C

“Even if a 15-year-old were writing it down, why would she keep records of her cycles this long?!?!?! No woman does that!!!! To quote Tina Anderson, “Give me a break!” I’m praying the jury will.” ~W

I was actually hoping Tina would ask that defense attorney, “…do you remember the dates of yours from when you were 15?” ~W

To add further insult and emotional pain, Tina’s mother Christina Leaf took the stand.  Tina sobbed in the gallery when her mother was asked if she supported Tina responded:

“I only support the truth, not a lie.’’

Christine Leaf testified that her daughter ‘gave her a hard time’. She was ‘stubborn’. Christine admits her daughter had good grades and says she was not aware of any boyfriends or dating.   She testified that sending Tina out-of-state to have her baby “was my idea.” Christine Leaf at first testified that she wanted her daughter to move to Colorado to have a better life. Minutes later she stated,

“I needed to get her out of the house because she was very mean to me.”

Mrs. Leaf appears to be the most selfish woman.

Poor Mrs. Leaf, her daughter was raped by a trusted family friend, get’s pregnant, is not believed by her mother and the powerful pastor of her church.

Poor Mrs. Leaf, her daughter is mean to her after her 16-year-old daughter is made to stand before 100′s of people while her pastor read a letter that Tina was made to write, apologizing for “putting herself in compromising situation,” and getting pregnant.

Poor Mrs. Leaf,  takes back, lives with the monster that she knows molested her daughter, and had beaten both her children, after he is released from prison because she “needed him.”

Poor Mrs. Leaf, continues to attend the same church with her daughters rapist for many years.

Poor Mrs. Leaf sends her daughter hundreds of miles away to live with strangers, when Tina begged to go stay with her grandparents.

Poor, poor Mrs. Leaf you, “needed to get her out of the house because she [Tina] was very mean to me.”

Mrs. Leaf, we get it, you’re the victim.  Poor, poor Mrs. Leaf who made the decision not to protect her own daughter from first your child rapist husband, then the degenerate who likes to rape teenage girls, nor the pastor.  Poor, poor you.

Mrs. Leaf also testified that it was Tina’s sole decision to give her baby up for adoption as Tina sobbed and had to be consoled in the gallery.  Mrs. Leaf testified if she had her way, Tina would have kept the baby.

Christine Leaf’s husband Daniel Leaf is a registered sex offender.  He served 7 years in prison for molesting a child in a McDonald’s bathroom.  While he was in prison, Tina told her mother, Christine Leaf, about Daniel Leaf molesting her.  Before that, Daniel Leaf went to prison for a year and a half for felony child abuse.  He had severely beaten both Tina and her brother.

Mrs. Leaf’s response?  She took her daughter to Pastor Phelps for “counseling.”  According to Tina, she was told she needed to forgive her step-father.  Tina was then taken to the prison where she was told she needed to “forgive and forget” what her step-father had done to be right with God.  Before the trial, Tina’s mother has claimed she was told to do this not by Chuck Phelps but by social workers as part of a family reunification plan.  Chuckles has spoken to eight different child advocates, social workers, who work with Children who have parents in prison.  ALL had practiced in the 1990′s responded, even in the 1990′s, this was not recommended.

For those who doubt that Pastor Phelps may have told Tina and her mother to do this or not.  The type of pastoral Counseling taught at Pastor Chuck Phelps alma mater, tends to blame the victim.  Survivors of physical and sexual abuse are often told that unless they forgive their abuser, God will not hear their prayers.

In their view, forgiveness is not a destination one gets to after working through 5-7 levels, it is demanded as the starting point.

Tina, if you read this, I apologize in advance for what needs to be said about your mother.

Mrs. Leaf, you’re a pathetic human being.

Trial Transcript by Amy Coveno Day 1

Amy Coveno-WMUR Channel 9 in NH has a  posted moment by moment updates during the trial.

Good Afternoon. Christina Anderson is now telling the jury and a packed courtroom in Concord how she informed Ernest Willis that she was pregnant. She requested to talk with him in a public place, so they met at a restaurant in the Concord area.
by Amy Coveno 
We are in Courtroom 1 of Superior Court in Concord. Christina Anderson is now testifying that she told her friend Sarah Harrison about the rapes and the pregnancy and Sarah agreed to go with her to tell her mom about the pregnancy.
by Amy Coveno

Christina Anderson is 29 years old now and is married. She has three young children and lives in Arizona. She testified that she has a masters degree in education and is an on-line tutor. The daughter she gave up for adoption is now 12 years old and is not aware of the circumstances of her adoption or of this trial. by Amy Coveno

Ernest Willis, the defendant, is being represented by Donna Brown, she is the defense attorney who represented Christopher Gribble during his insanity trial for the Mont Vernon Murder trial.
by Amy Coveno


Ernest Willis was 39 years old at the time of the assault. He has plead guilty to one count of felonious sexual assault but denies that the encounter was forcible and denies a secound assault ever occured.
by Amy Coveno

“At one point, she asked me if I enjoyed it,” testified Christina Anderson when she told Pastor Phelps and other church officials about the assault and the pregnancy.

by Amy Coveno

Pastor Chuck Phelps is expected to testify. Christina is now describing how she ended up staying at the Phelps home during her pregnancy and was forced to admit to the entire congregation that she was one percent responsible for allowing a ‘compromising situation’. Ms. Anderson is now crying on the stand.by Amy Coveno

Anderson is now reading from the book of Deuteronomy in the Bible verse 22, 23, 24 about how if a virgin lies with a man and doesn’t scream out she should be stoned. She says Pastor Phelps had her read this passage after telling him she was pregnant and named Ernest Willis as the father. by Amy Coveno

Christina Anderson is testifying that she was expelled from school and kept isolated from her family during her pregnancy. by Amy Coveno

Christina Anderson says she was made to write a statement that “Chuck”(Pastor Phelps) was going to read to the congregation, it was apologizing for allowing a compromising situation to occur.

by Amy Coveno

Ms. Anderson is now describing the discipline service. Ernie apologized for being unfaithful to his wife. Then Anderson says Pastor Phelps said, “now whe have a completely different situation to deal with” and Anderson read her statement about a compromising situation. by Amy Coveno 

Anderson was sent to Colorado for the duration of her pregnancy despite her begging to go stay with her grandparents but she was denied and sent to live with strangers. The Landrys were a family that Chuck Phelps knew when he was a pastor in Colorado.
by Amy Coveno 

Tina Anderson says Ernie Willis paid for her plane ticket to Colorado. Her mother flew out to Colorado with her and stayed a day or two. Tina says the Landrys were very kind to her but didn’t talk a lot. She says she felt lonely.
by Amy Coveno 

Tina Anderson is now describing how she was asked to choosed from the profiles of three anonymous families where her baby would go for adoption.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina is now testifying that she was forced to write a letter to Ernest Willis’ wife apologizing for betraying her trust. Tina was a babysitter for the Willis’ four children and 15 at the time of the sexual assault that impregnated her. Ernest Willis has admitted to being the father of the child- a girl who was put up for adoption immediately after her birth and Lutheran Medical Center in Colorado.
by Amy Coveno 
Counsel is having a sidebar with the judge. The jury has been advised by the judge that they can stand up and stretch during these sidebars. The jury is comprised of 6 women and 8 men- 2 are alternates. This trial is expected to last several days.
by Amy Coveno 
Christina Anderson is now identfying photographs being shown to her by the prosecution. They are photos of her in the hospital, holding the baby. The Defense it appears objected to these photos being presented to the jury- the judge announced their position is ‘preserved’ for the record. The jury is now looking at the photos.
by Amy Coveno 
Court is adjourning for lunch once every juror has viewed the photos.
by Amy Coveno
We are signing off until 1:30 when court will re-convene. The jury is being reminded to refrain from talking about the case.
by Amy Coveno 
We are back inside Courtroom 1 here at Superior Court in Concord. Prosecutor Wayne Coull tells me he thinks he’ll rest his case by Wednesday- then the defense will present their case. Most are confident that the jury will have the case for deliberation before the weekend.
by Amy Coveno 
During the lunch recess I spoke with Jocelyn Zichterman who founded the Independent Fund Baptist Cult Surviviors Facebook Group. She is the one who contacted Concord Police about Tina Anderson’s whereabouts that re-opened the case against Ernest Willis. Zichterman says 25 to 30 church sex abuse survivors from around the country are here in the courtroom to offer moral support to Tina- Zichterman says this is the first time victims have banded together in a case like this.
by Amy Coveno
Tina Anderson is seated in the front row chatting with Jocelyn Zichterman as we wait for the trial to reconvene. Tina will take the stand to continue her testimony in a few moments.
by Amy Coveno 
Judge Larry Smukler is presiding over this case. He has just taken his place at the bench and is conferring with the attorneys.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina Anderson is taking her place back in the witness box. We are waiting for the jury to arrive. Testimony will continue until 4 pm.
by Amy Coveno 
Wayne Coull is continue his direct examination of Tina Anderson who says she spent two days with the baby before the adoptive parents took the child home.
by Amy Coveno 
Several supporters in the courtroom are wearing the color teal green- which they say is symbolic of survivors of sexual abuse.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina Anderson is testifying that she moved back to NH despite not wanting to and lived with her mother and went back to services at Trinity Baptist Church but was expelled from their school so she was home school.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina then went off to college -Maranatha Bible College in Wisconsin where one of the Deans advised her to ‘keep her mouth shut’ about what happened to her.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina is now testifying about the media crush surrounding her. She ultimately agreed to a single exclusive interview with 20/20 saying she just wanted to be left alone and chose 20/20 because they are ‘investigative’. She turned down Oprah, The Today Show, GMA, and most recently CNN.
by Amy Coveno
Tina says she does not have a relationship with her mother at this time. She believes her mother did exactly what she was told to do by Pastor Chuch Phelps.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina is testifying about how she would see Ernie Willis in church after she returned to NH from giving birth and surrendering her baby for adoption.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina says that she had no idea people were looking for her while she was in Colorado.
by Amy Coveno 
Defense Attorney Donna Brown is now leading the cross examination of Tina Anderson.
by Amy Coveno
Donna Brown is asking Tina about the sex abuse allegations regarding her step father Danial Leaf. Tina testifies that she was aware her mother filed a police report but says she believes her mother told police that she was lying about being molested and only filed the report because she was a ‘mandatory reporter’ and didn’t want to ‘get in trouble’.
by Amy Coveno 
Attorney Brown is now using a large white tablet and easel to sketch out the chain of events of when and who Tina told about the pregnancy.
by Amy Coveno 
Donna Brown is asking about the report of the pregnancy to her friend and her mother on October 7, 1997 and her subsequent visit to the doctor within a couple of days.
by Amy Coveno
Defense is now asking about Tina’s last menstrual cycle from 14 years ago. Tina says she can’t remember but she does remember telling ‘Ernie’ about her pregnancy sometime in August.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina Anderson is now losing patience with the Defense Attorney Donna Brown, saying “I understand what you are doing and it’s wrong.” They are arguing about the timeline of when Tina told Ernie about the pregnancy and how long she took to tell her friend and her mother.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina says, ” you are insinuating that I’m lying and it frustrates me.”
by Amy Coveno
Tina is being asked about which restaurant she met Ernie Willis in to inform him of the pregnancy. It was on or around August 22, 1997.
by Amy Coveno
Donna Brown is asking if Tina continued to babysit after the assaults, Tina says only once or twice, but that her memory is fuzzy as it was 14 years ago.
by Amy Coveno 
Attorneys are now having a sidebar with the judge. Tina seems exasperated with the Defense line of questioning.
by Amy Coveno
Court is in a brief recess.
by Amy Coveno 
The defense just asked a couple of follow up questions. Now Prosecutor Wayne Coull is leading the re-direct. He asks Tina if she has ever been married to Ernie Willis- she says no.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina says Ernie apologized to her after the driving lesson that ended in her sexual assault and that he promised it would never happen again so she continued to take driving lessons from him.
by Amy Coveno 
Ernie Willis has admitted to one sexual encounter with Tina Anderson when she was 15 but says it was not forcible.
by Amy Coveno 
Tina Anderson is emotional and says she is trying to hold in her tears but it’s difficult. Tina has been excused from the stand.
by Amy Coveno 
Sara Harrison is now being sworn in. She is a friend of Tina’s. Sara lives in Pembroke NH with her two sons who are 17 and 15. Sara is disabled due to a bicycle accident- she was hit by a car in August 2007.
by Amy Coveno 
Sara testifies that Tina babysat for her.
by Amy Coveno 
Sara is testifying about the evening that Tina came to her to tell her about what happened. Sara says Tina was crying a lot and struggled to get her words out.
by Amy Coveno 
Sara is explaining how she and Tina sat down with Tina’s mother to tell he she was pregnant. Sara said that she had to tell Tina’s mother because Tina was so shaken up. Sara says Pastor Phelps was at the meeting as well. Pastor Phelps took Tina and her mom from Sara’s home back to their home.
by Amy Coveno
Sara Harrison has been excused. The judge is now having a sidebar with the attorneys. by Amy Coveno
Court is back in session after the final break of the day. Susan Capucci is now on the stand. She is Sara Harrison older sister. She works at that Concord YMCA child development program. She is a lead teacher there. She’s been married 24 years. She used to teach at Trinity Christian School for 13 years. And she knew Tina Anderson ( nee Dooley)
by Amy Coveno 
Susan Capucci is testifying that she called Pastor Phelps when her sister Sara Harrison called for advice about Tina- who was visibly upset and didn’t want to go home.
by Amy Coveno 
Susan Capucci is testifying about Tina’s 1997 ‘apology’ to the congregation in front of a couple of hundred people- admitting to being pregnant and saying ‘sorry’ for allowing a compromising situation.
by Amy Coveno 
No cross examination of Susan Capucci. She is excused. The fourth witness of the day is now being called.
by Amy Coveno 
Now Christine Leaf is being sworn in. She is Tina’s mother. She lives in Tilton NH and is 50 years old. She is married to Daniel Leaf. She was a member of the Trinity Baptist Church in Concord but has recently transferred to a church closer to her Tilton home.
by Amy Coveno 
“Tina’s younger,” says Christine, ” she’s my baby.”
by Amy Coveno 
Christine is telling the court that her husband served 7 years in prison for sexual assault.
by Amy Coveno 
“I only support the truth, not a lie,” said Christine Leaf about not believing her daughter’s claims that she was raped by Ernie Willis.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Leaf is answering the prosecution’s questions about her husband’s criminal history. She tells the court they lived in section 8 housing Concord Gardens in 1997. She was doing clerical work for the state.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine is now answering questions about Pastor Chuck Phelps. She says he was one of the leaders of the church. She says it was her idea to move her pregnant daughter out to Colorado.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Leaf says her daughter ‘gave her a hard time’. She was ‘stubborn’. Christine admits her daughter had good grades and says she was not aware of any boyfriends or dating.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Leaf says it was HER idea to move Tina to Colorado. Prosecutor says, Tina didn’t want to go. Christine says I wanted what was best for her.
by Amy Coveno
Christine Leaf emphatically says she did the right thing sending her daughter to Colorado. She holds up Tina Anderson’s success now as an adult as proof. She says her daughter is a college graduate with a master’s degree, married a ‘wonderful’ man and has three children of her own now.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Leaf says it was Tina’s choice to give the baby up for adoption, if she had her way her daughter would have kept the baby. Tina is crying hard in the courtroom now, this is clearly difficult for her.
by Amy Coveno 
For Much of this testimony it appears Christine Leaf is addressing the jury directly. Many Tina Anderson supporters are openly weeping.
by Amy Coveno 
Christine Leaf testifies that Ernie Willis paid for the flight to Colorado and says she doesn’t know why, ‘maybe he felt guilty’.
by Amy Coveno 
Can you make any comment about how the jury is responding or their facial expressions during testimony?
by Leah
Court has adjourned for the day. They will reconvene tomorrow at 9 am. We are signing off for now.
by Amy Coveno 
@ Leah, the jury is attentive and non expressive. They are listening closely. They apparently expressed some concern to the court about the intense media coverage and wanted reassurance that they will remain anonymous, which of course they will,for the duration of the proceeding.
by Amy Coveno 

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